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US in secret gun deal

Seeded on Mon May 15, 2006 3:40 AM EDT
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Small arms shipped from Bosnia to Iraq 'go missing' as Pentagon uses dealers -- The Pentagon has secretly shipped tens of thousands of small arms from Bosnia to Iraq in the past two years, using a web of private companies, at least one of which is a noted arms smuggler blacklisted by Washington and the UN.

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OMG Anie I know what happened. I will do my nation states post on Transdnestr in less than 24hrs promise. It will explain this

The Moldovan air firm which flew the cargo out of a US air base at Tuzla, north-east Bosnia, was flying without a licence. The firm, Aerocom, named in a 2003 UN investigation of the diamonds-for-guns trade in Liberia and Sierra Leone, is now defunct, but its assets and aircraft are registered with another Moldovan firm, Jet Line International.

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Reply#1 - Mon May 15, 2006 5:20 AM EDT
Wes Hunt

It's nothing new, the movie Lord of War is about the way these things work. As horrific as it is, it's a very simple equation: If our enemies and potential enemies are busy killing each other, then they wont be killing Americans.
It wasn't until after the Soviet Union left Afghanistan that Osama turned his aims toward US buildings... he was just too busy. Want to know where the Bosnian guns went? Somewhere else in Africa, probably the Darfur region; not to kill the people helpless people, but to give to them, so that they can protect themselves. The result will inevitably be a ethnic cleansing in the opposite direction, much like the tides we saw in Rwanda beween the Hutsi's and Tutsi's taking turns grabbing power and slaughtering the other.

If not somewhere else in Africa, then perhaps the Pentagon and the CIA are working together again and the CIA is planning the overthrow of some nation; since they've got just such a great history of that over the last half century.

In the end it's quite simple, Americans are safe if our enemies are too busy killing some of our other enemies to kill us.

  • 9 votes
Reply#2 - Mon May 15, 2006 11:45 AM EDT
HelpMeImpeachBush

It's nothing new, the movie Lord of War is about the way these things work.

I was just about to say that. I am interesting in learning more about this story, I hope it gets a lot of press coverage.

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#2.1 - Mon May 15, 2006 4:23 PM EDT
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Keld Bach

Here's a related story from last week: HAVE 200,000 AK47S FALLEN INTO THE HANDS OF IRAQ TERRORISTS?. Maybe the same story, except that the AK47s have now become Kalashnikov machine guns...

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Reply#4 - Mon May 15, 2006 4:28 PM EDT
cjlewis

But ooooohhhh..lets not sell arms to Venezuela because they might be selling information to other countries.....nevermind if our 200,000 falls in the hands of terrorist...man..this administration is a joke

U.S. Orders Ban of Arms Sales to Venezuela

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Mon May 15, 2006 5:34 PM EDT
TopJedi

I heard part of this explained away by two US Senators on C-span this afternoon. Jack Reed (D-Rhode Island) and John Warner (R-Virginia)

They essentially said they are trying to avoid a Vietnam style withdrawal from Iraq where local police and soldiers are trained and left to protect their country without usable weapons or without a supply or repair parts.

In their words, the vast majority of the military small arms in use by Iraqi forces consists of outdated and relatively ineffective Russian military weaponry, however the Iraqis still have a substantial supply of repair parts for these obsoleted weapons. One of the dilemmas the US is facing is whether to adequately arm the Iraqi defense forces and in doing so trying to put in place a supply base where the Iraqis are not just left with brand new guns and no spare parts.

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Reply#6 - Mon May 15, 2006 8:44 PM EDT
zenpundit

Akin to carrying coals to Newscastle. Iraq was already awash in more small arms per capita than any country on earth. Perhaps iraq was merely a transhipment point to Iranian Kurds or Baluchs.

    Reply#7 - Mon May 15, 2006 9:23 PM EDT
    TopJedi

    We know well from history that Iraq has been in steady conflict for the past 30 years, but never quite as well equipped as their neighbor to the east.

    Arming or disarming countries is a no-win approach, critics can take you out as completely misguided for pursuing either approach.

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    #7.1 - Mon May 15, 2006 10:20 PM EDT
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